March 12, 2012
What we get:
What we had:
It used to be a time not so long ago, where the view of English bay and Kitsilano was making Denman a delight:
How we have allowed this view to be ruined?
- A Vancouver park board which has abdicated its mandate of protecting the park to the benefit of people and city, to instead prostitute our parks to commercial enterprise, at the cost of depriving the city and public of their cherished green spaces
- A non vigilant City Hall, which in that matter has demonstrated a very deep lack of judgement in urbanism
- A presentation of the view impact by the applicant, Acton Ostry Architects , which raises question on its professional integrity.
What we have been promised:
The Park board had already started to infringe the Denman perspective with the roof of a concession circa 1998. The English bay bistro applicant will convince a too naive CityHall that its proposal will have minimal impact. Alas reality will prove different:
Some other rendering of the applicant “view study”
The observer will have hard time to connect with the above vision.
I have no fish eye lens, but if someone provide me picture of today, I will gladly post them here
What can be done?
The Vancouver park board got it seriously wrong: Demolition seems to be the only reasonable option.
- It is a reasonabble option because the Park board is still owning the land, which is leased to the Cactus club cafe on a 5 years term
- It is reasonable because it is clear that the public has been misleaded, by unrepresentative, if not outright deceptive, views
- It is reasonable because it is necessary not only to preserve but to enhance our public view corridor, especially when those contribute to the soul of or urban environment
 The applicant, is also involved in the Rize development, 228-246 East Broadway & 180 Kingsway, a development where the applicant’s rendering has been demonstrated as seriously misleading (see Memorandum referring to item 6 of Public Hearing of February 27, 2012, K. Munro,
 1790 Beach avenue (Complete application) DE412932, September 23, 2009 – Pictures of the application has been obtained directly from Vancouver city hall (thanks to its staff)
April 25, 2011
Interesting picture since it highlights how “dull” can be the architecture standard in Vancouver, but Denman street is still a great street (by Vancouver Standard) in a well desired neighborhood.
That illustrates more than perfectly the thesis that what is important is not how high or architecturally interesting is a building, but how it meets the people where they are-on the ground…Thesis defended by architect Jack Diamond at a city of Vancouver sponsored event last Tuesday night …and a reason explaining the success of Vancouver urbanism (somewhat termed vancouverism) , in despite of somewhat bland architecture to speak the least.
Denman has all the ingredients to be a great street:
- It is properly oriented to benefit of sunlight most of the day, while still offering interesting lighting condition changes during the day
- It Connects the south and north shore of the peninsula, with great vantage viewpoint at both end, and inviting perspective on English bay
- Stanley park, the beaches, the seawall, all provide a great deal of pedestrian traffic to capitalize on
- It is a human scale short stretch street making a consistent beautification project of it very doable
That said, Denman suffers of some flaws to become a “great” street: it doesn’t capitalize on its natural strengths but tends to ignore it.
After touring the Stanley park, riding the seawall, or lazying on the beaches, the natural prolongation of those hedonist moments is to enjoy some more urban time at a sidewalk cafe…
Sure, Denman, doesn’t lack of cheap food joint, and also has some patio restaurants, but does it offer what we are expecting in such location?
On Denman, there is no sidewalk cafe allowing you to enjoy, while still contributing to, the street-life (what could epitomize the “european style sidewalk cafe” experience). Since Denman street is a very short street which is experienced by virtually 100% of Vancouver tourists the lack of proper treatment of it by a city so pride of its image is for the least, curious.
Why there is no European style sidewalk cafe here ? Is it due to a cultural difference or a poor treatment of the street, which call for lack of inviting experience? is it a fatality Denman street has to resign to ?
Since sidewalk cafe experience can be found in numerous place in North america, and in less extend in Yaletown, Cultural differences fail to explain why Denman shouldn’t be able to offer such an experience.
- There is no lack of people, and potential customers, but the street is not designed for enjoyment…sidewalk are too narrow and crowded, and clearly not sized to allow sidewalk cafes.
- In despite of lack of bike lanes, cyclists are numerous, but bike rack are at a premium,
- vehicular traffic is heavy on Denman, but in fact of the 4 lanes dedicated to vehicular traffic, one is used for parking most of the time, and erratic movement on traffic lanes, like left turns, cyclists, bus stops, jaywalkers, directional lane at Robson….make the street not having much more throughput capacity that a reasonably designed 2 traffic lanes street.
Reduction of Denman to 2 traffic lanes + a median lane is a necessary step to a greater street.
- The median lane can be used to avoid slower traffic like cyclists, bus stopping, right turning vehicle or as “storage” lane for left turning
- the median lane can also encourage “responsible” jay walking what is good in heavy traffic area, since it relieve congestion at designated sidewalk crossing, and contribute to make the street a more “shared space”
- The sidewalk should be the main beneficiary of the space reallocation. benches should be installed and sidewalk patio should be encouraged.
The inspiring model could be “cappucino strip” (south terrace) in Fremantle, Australia:
Denman is on the notoriously slow number 5 route. There is little reason to think that the alteration of the street as suggested above should affect this route. That said this route has considerable flaw as illustrated below:
The problem, is not that much the driver giving an insanely circuitous route, the problem is that the transit system is designed in such a way that the driver answer is a correct one!
The Translink route map extract below shows why:
The Vancouver centric view of the transit network, make the transit option from North-Shore to the Westend not necessarily appealing. Thought that the Georgia bus stop is a mere 350 meters away of Robson, it can be a pain to have to walk that distance either under the rain or in the cold. To add to the frustration, people using the route 6, will have to spend extra time at the time point at Davie and Denman.
All that can be corrected easily:
- Extend both routes 5 and 6 to Denman North to provide direct seamless connection at Georgia street with the countless bus routes using this later corridor.
That extension adding less than 1km to each bus trip, could have limited effect on operating cost, but could make the system much more comprehensive in the area.
That is: there are lot of reasons to revisit the street space allocation and transit in the Denman area
 Gordon Price
 Exploring Denman street- From English bay to Cola Harbour Dana Lynch, Inside Vancouver, June 16, 2009
 Achieving new height in archiecture excellence, April 19, 2011